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Was kidding dio ^^ Just meant u like to debate!
I'll speak too

And just for daddy, that's the same in France :/


That's obvious that now most of bands improve their songs with computers, then it sounds like perfect
Here is dragonforce, speedmetal, u can hear a good difference between live and studio!






but for me all which can make a sound is an instrument
If this is one

So a lot of things can make a sound


Oh, and finally i don't really care which instruments they used as long as i like the music Even if thats sad now that u can make pro music only with a computer, all pro guitarists works on it for years and just with a computer unskilled guitarist u can make the same sound :/

i agree bady, but truth is most ppl producing electronic music (atleast music i listen 2) are exeptional musicians, and i mean real geniuses.
you cant put anyone ifront of a computer and think they can make music.
you will definitly learn 2 play the guitarr pretty good, long before you can learn how 2 work a real music program, like logic or qubase.
anyone dont believe me, download logic or qubase and try making a track.

take quincy jones for example. michael jackson was a pop star, quincy made him the king of pop ===> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nSCb9MnPM&feature=related

you might know this song as one of the best selling singels ever made, but the mastermid behind it is quincy. and ye, all made digital...

okey i have to give up maybe dio is right but as bady said its a shame that you can do that can change that much on a computer but badyyy that dude herman lee still rocks live on guitar and they are evil they pushed the one guy down of the stage o:

But when u are used to these progs dio, u can even play bagpipes with it!
I didn't say that was easy to use but if programs cud make that

That wud be rly unfair :/


And you cant put anyone in front of a guitar and think they can make music. There are geniuses everywhere!
I don't think it's harder to use perfectly a program than a guitar tho!

And about tha black/white guy, yea that's made with digital but cauz that's the kind of music!
80' rock bands were pro even without digital!

ofc you cant put anyone infront of a guitar and expect them 2 be able 2 play, dont get me wrong, i rly appreciate a good guitar player or drum player.
but a great player of any instrument will never make a song sound good. look at all your posts bady, what makes it good is that these ppl have been playing 2gether for so long the music is perfectly synced, thats what you should rly appreciate...

oh yea, i 4got... Sure you can make alot of sounds with computers (like a bagpipe) but thats just a bonus, thats not what its about. what takes years and years 2 learn is to master an arrangements, 2 compress the sounds and make all sounds interact.

I'v been producing music for more than 10 years on computers, all from hiphop, soul 2 house electro, and im still learning new stuff everyday when it comes 2 mastering. this is a whole science...

Yea that's i wanted to say : music is made of several instruments but when u master that program, u can play all by yourself!
U control all what u do and i think (once u learned) that's easier to make it as u have to be synced only with urself ^^
U can get the perfect sound with these programs so IT SEEMS to be easier, once u got it, u can use it again and again whereas guitarists (still as example) have to work on it everyday!

Digital music with programs is much closer to computing than music (then if u wanna make a good song, ofc u need to know how to make good music).
I don't say digital music is not music and i like to listen to that kind of music, but that's something different from what u get with basic instruments (and in fact, that's a bit like bitchy said )

Huge Spaaaammmmmmmmm!!!!!!!

That's not that spam, we talk about music at least

E-LECKTR wrote:im not listeining to it. u said its shit coz u dont know what he is talkin about. how mature...

Haha

yea as our wise bady says its almost coorect in my opinion. I like the old music better (then the computer made single person created music) cause they has to work as a team everything/every member has to work perfect and sync perfect. I believe its hard to make music on a program but when you can it you can make almost an whole album pretty fast on your own at least i think so but and old band it could takes years of year and ofc as with any creation of music you have to be musical.

well first of all, what u said bady said, thats what I said^^ (about the sync of the band). secondly, ppl in all genres make albums over 1-10 days, ESPECIALLY rock music, cus of expensive studio time. however, whether its rap, electro or rock, it usaly ends up pretty boring when its recorded 2 fast. when it comes 2 electronic music they rearly ever release albums. daft punk does it though ===>

Homework - March 25, 1997
Discovery - March 13, 2001
Human After All - March 14, 2005

4 years / album

persenoly i dont care how long it took 2 make it, its the result that counts...

yea i know xD Nah i writed a school work about Guns N' Roses a few weeks ago and i know there album didnt take 1-10 days to make for expample the latest album took 14 years to finnish. I dont only care if its good i care about the hmm... soul in the music how they singing it. gah i can't explain on english.

Yea u said that about synchronisation and all, but that's i wanted to shot with that dream theater vid!
And true that only the results is important but if u can make it fast and well done, so why shud we wait?
Usually, the longer u wait for an album, the better the album is. But if u have to wait 10 years for 1 album...

Check the Buckethead's albums, 2 or 3 a year! Ofc there aren't all perfect, but u can make good music even if u don't make albums very seldom!

Bucketheadland (CD - 1992)
Giant Robot (CD - 1994)
Day Of The Robot (CD - 1996)
Colma (CD - 1998)
Monsters And Robots (CD - 1999)
Somewhere Over The Slaughter House (CD - 2001)
Funel Weaver (CD - 2002)
Bermuda Triangle (CD - 2002)
Electric Tears (CD - 2002)
Bucketheadland 2 (CD - 2003)
Island Of The Lost Minds (CD - 2004)
Population Override (CD - 2004)
The Cuckoo Clocks of Hell (CD - 2004)
Enter The Chicken (CD - 2005)
Kaleidoscalp (CD - 2005)
Inbred Mountain (CD - 2005)
The Elephant Man's Alarm Clock (CD - 2006)
Crime Slunk Scene (CD - 2006)
Decoding the Tomb of Bansheebot (CD - 2007)
Pepper's Ghost (CD - 2007)
Acoustic Shards (CD - 2007)
Kevin's Noodle House (CD - 2007)
Cyborg Slunks (CD - 2007)
From The Coop (CD - 2008)
Albino Slug (CD - 2008)
Slaughterhouse On The Prairie (CD - 2009)
A Real Diamond In The Rough (CD - 2009)



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bitchy, gnr didnt work on their album during that time, they were fighting, doing drugs, fucking, breaking up back and forth... axl rose is a cocain head, he's a real duchbag fucked on drugs... and look at him now, he cant sing, cant hit a singel note.

but sure, from 1987 to 1991 they were great. "The Spaghetti Incident" was the beginning of the end...

yea i know they didnt work on it all the time they splitted at the start of the album, HEEY Axl owns at singing at least when he singed in the "orginal" GnR. He could sing almost any note from dark notes to high screams. The problem is my opinion when a band/artist makes an album to fast it doesnt get that same result as if it takes longer. Myabe they miss some small things that makes it a little worse and i don't appreciate as much if i know it made over a week then if they putted much work in it.

Here is a rapper from CAEN and in this song, u can hear a solo from Ron 'Bumblefoot' Tal (GNR's guitarist)